Hosts: Ez (he/him) and Bette (she/they)

This week Ez & Bette are in studio catching you up on what's happening with the LNP government changes for the QCGS (Queensland Children's Gender Service) as well as some history and context around "Conversion Therapy" and the Red Flags to look out for in therapeutic spaces.

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Timestamps and Links:

• 03:03 - What’s Going On With QCGS - Petition Link


• 04:47 - Gillian Spencer and the RANZCP


• 06:40 - Speculation: Worst Case Scenario


• 07:53 - Briefly Bette: Surviving Social Conversion Therapy


• 11:46 - Looking Back at Conversion Therapy - Karl Bryant


• 14:54 - Looking Back at Conversion Therapy - Erika Muse


• 19:05 - Aspects of Contemporary Conversion Therapy - 🚩Therapy First


• 22:08 - Aspects of Contemporary Conversion Therapy - Michelle Telfer


• 23:24 - 🚩 Therapy First and SEGM 🚩


• 27:14 - Psychotherapy for Gender Dysphoria: No Evidence


• 29:12 - 🚩 Red Flags To Look Out For 🚩 - Correction in Notes.


• 31:42 - Public Health Act of 2005 Clause


• 33:22 - Sign the Petition to Protect Trans Kids

Red Flags List:

• Using the word ‘detransition’ as if it were a medical term. This term has no strict definition.


• Utilising the following as medical terms: Desistance, Rapid Onset Gender Dysphoria (RODG), Trans Identification/Identified, Natal Males/Females, “Transgender”/“Cisgender”,


• Utilising the following points: Exponential Increase in Trans Self Identifying, Conflating Gender Dysphoria with Gender Identity Disorder, Refusing to use Pronouns or Referred Name, Interrogating sexuality, kinks, fetishes, and porn use.

CORRECTION: The terms “natal male” and “natal female” are commonly used as a way to avoid using the term “sex assigned at birth”, not to avoid the term “cisgender”. Bette got flustered from talking too fast.

Further Reading:
Florence Ashley — Interrogating Gender Exploratory Therapy

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Episode: https://tranzmission.pinecast.co/episode/b28157a9/is-gender-exploratory-therapy-conversion-therapy-

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